ADHD and Decision Fatigue: How to Reduce Overwhelm and Make Choices Easier

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ADHD and Decision Fatigue

Speaker 1  0:00 

Becky,

Speaker 2  0:03 

hello, and welcome back to the JenUp podcast. If you’ve been struggling with an eating disorder and feeling lost, you’ve certainly come to the right place, because both myself and Becky Stone are former sufferers of eating disorders, and we understand the challenges that you’re facing. So, join us for inspiring, educational, relatable content, whether you’re seeking support, guidance, or just someone who understands, we are here for you. So, it’s Becky and I stay, and we’re going to going to be talking about ADHD and decision fatigue, because we thought this was, you know, a really good topic to be talking about, and hopefully this will all help you, and it’s something that you can relate to, so Becky, would you like to get the ball rolling?

Speaker 3  0:47 

I don’t know about you, but where I’ve only just got diagnosed, I don’t know, about six months ago, and I’ve always known I’m different, so I definitely am dyslexic, and for I’m what, 46 now, so I think the penny is beginning to drop. Yes, a bit later in life, I think I’m really understanding myself, but I think being ADHD and understanding about how much I struggle to make a decision when it comes to, so like, I finish my work with my clients, I’m making decisions all day, I’m working really hard, my brain’s going at 100 miles an hour, and I never really understood why. Like, when I walk in and somebody says to me in my house, like, what do you want for dinner, and I’m paralyzed, and I really struggle thinking, well, how do I make a decision? Like, and people look at me and go, well, slow your process down, start think about what you’re just about to say, and I’m a bit like only if it was that easy, because the moment I get put on the spot, my brain empties out, it’s just like there is nothing there. So I think making a decision of what I want to eat is really hard, and I think linking it back in with eating disorders, it’s when I don’t know about you, Jen, but when I’m talking to clients, like, what do you fancy, what do you want to make, what do you want for dinner, they, they just don’t have an idea. So I know, because there’s a lot of patterns with a lot of my clients, whether it’s been GT and overeating or anorexia, that decision making, fatigue, fatigue is so hard and so overwhelming, and I feel like a bit of a numpty sometimes, like even when I have a menu stuck in front of me, I just sit and stare at it, and I think, oh, do you know what, I’m going to talk,

Speaker 1  2:33 

because then I don’t have to make a decision, or like my guys are all ADHD in my house, and although if I’m asked them what they wanted for dinner, I would never get a straight answer. So I think after understanding about my diagnosis, and actually they’re like light bulb moments, I’m beginning to work out that actually I need meal prepping, like I need a strategy of organization on the days that I am able to think

Speaker 2  3:04 

I completely agree, I think the meal prepping I’ve started to do some myself, and I think that’s been an absolute game changer for me, because it takes the decision out and I have something ready to go, so I don’t have to like panic, I have something there and I’m prepped and I’m also getting the right amount of nutrients from my body, because I train a lot as well, so it’s kind of understanding what I need in the morning. So we spoke about putting more protein in the morning, and I’ve done that myself, and I felt a lot better for doing that, especially up before my workouts. And then

Speaker 3  3:38 

our bodies, like me and Jen, I’ve had a bit of a chat behind the scenes before this podcast, and like I normally love weeds bits, because I wouldn’t say I love it, but it’s easy, you put freely

Speaker 3  3:50 

in a bowl and then you put milk in it, but by 10 o’clock I want to eat a scabby dog, I’m so hungry again, like, but I’ve only just had breakfast like two hours ago, like, what’s going on, and I think by changing the breakfast routine, and, and the decision making fatigue in that, so I know it sounds boring, but I’ve started making like five overnight oats, they’re the same breakfast every single morning, but they’ve got enough protein, fibre, fruits, like fats in it, everything you need in it, it, I just literally wake up like a zombie and get my overnight oats, I eat that, put it in the dishwasher, job done. Or the other thing I’ve started doing is like, like yesterday I made 15, I think I had a tray of eggs that were about to go off, so I literally cooked up loads of scrambled egg, whacked, had to wait until it cooled down because I was a bit of a div, didn’t read the instructions properly, and I cooked it last time with loads of cottage cheese in it, and it literally went like this watery mess, it was disgusting, obviously I don’t read instructions, which I think is part of ADHD. Because I

Speaker 2  5:00 

don’t read instructions either, I just get someone else to read them,

Speaker 3  5:05 

I just wing it sometimes. It’s a disaster dinner, and sometimes it actually, you’re like, I surprised myself, it turns out good. But I’ve made, like, they’re like black green like wraps with egg and cheese and avocado and stuff for the mornings, and I put them all in the freezer, and then I take them out the night before, and yes, I’m eating the same food, but I have a mix of overnight oats, or I have like these like cooked breakfast wraps. It’s an absolute game changer. I’m not like hungry until lunch time now, where before I think I was just burning off so much energy.

Speaker 2  5:41 

Yeah, I think definitely having protein in the morning is really important for ADHD, because it also helps me, like, focus a lot more as well, you know, it keeps you filler for longer, and having the balance between the proteins, carbohydrates, and fats is really quite important, so I definitely kind of think about that for people, if you’re feeling like you’re eating breakfast or you’re having just cereal and it’s not sustaining you throughout the day, that may lead to kind of that might trigger like anxiety as well, and a lot of people say

Speaker 3  6:11 

mood as well. I don’t know about you, but I’m a moody cow if I’m hungry, yeah, irritable, like everything somebody breathes and I’m like me, where, and then I get overwhelmed because I’m hungry, I’m overwhelmed.

Speaker 2  6:25 

Yeah,

Speaker 3  6:25 

and I just think our brains are going at 100 miles an hour, that uses up a lot of energy, let alone our body.

Speaker 2  6:33 

Yeah, it certainly does, and it explains, like, why, you know. Well, obviously, when I got, I think I got my diagnosis about, I think it was about a year ago now, but it also explains, like, why I struggled to notice when I was hungry a lot, and sometimes that does still happen to me, like, I’ll get really focused on the task, and I’ll get carried away with it, and then I’m like, oh god, like, I’m allowed myself to get too hungry,

Speaker 3  6:57 

time blindness is,

Speaker 2  7:01 

yeah,

Speaker 3  7:01 

for that, because you don’t. Also, I’m very similar. I don’t notice that my blood sugars have dropped,

Speaker 2  7:08 

yeah, or they’ve dropped, and by that point I’m, I’ve gone quiet. I’m either anxious, I’m tearful, or I’m hungry, and I want to rip the skin off your face, because all I can think about is food. And then that’s that’s dangerous for me, that’s that’s when I’m, I call it feral, gotta get to the food, yeah. No, I’m not saying, like, I’ve noticed that what I’ve struggled with personally is I’m trying to get better at as well myself, is like with the exercise, and because I’ve been getting on my bike a bit more, and I don’t notice, like, when my blood sugar’s dropped, so I have to eat every hour now, so which has helped,

Speaker 3  7:49 

yeah. But you’ve changed your metabolism to be like a furnace as well, so

Speaker 1  7:53 

yeah,

Speaker 2  7:53 

literally. And also, when you’re on that bike, you’ve got to concentrate and have really quick reactions, yeah. Exactly, and kind of on the road and stuff, and I’ve actually changed up the eating a little bit of what I’m having before and then during and stuff, and I’ve noticed a difference kind of with that, so but I do think for you know anyone who’s listening to come out of recovery or an eating disorder, and then it’s kind of getting your head around that is like really hard, like it’s it’s very difficult,

Speaker 3  8:21 

and also all the belief systems that you’ve got. Like, I was talking to a lady in the gym earlier, and she was like, “Oh, and she was really tall, and she was going on about what she was eating, and I was like, “Why are you eating that little? And then I had to say to her, “I said, your body has gone into starvation mode. She went, “Oh, that makes sense. Like, when I’ve eaten loads over the weekend, I’m like, you’re undernourished, and then you’re.. I definitely know she’s dyslexic. Um, so her.. she needs more fuel to keep her going. And then she went, “Well, what happens if I have Slim Fast milkshakes? And I’m like, “They’re all good for a short period of time, but you can’t keep that sustainable, where three minutes a day is sustainable, and I know I’ve said I keep ADHD hyper focus, like Team U to the T here, not that I’m getting sponsored by them, but I am, I’m obsessed with these food cubes, like you freeze them like food, like freeze ice cubes,

Speaker 2  9:19 

yeah,

Speaker 3  9:20 

like yesterday I made spaghetti bolognese up and I put corn because I don’t eat meat, so I did corn, and then I put lentils in it, so I got extra protein in it, and then I cooked it all up with loads of spaghetti, put olive oil all over it, so I got my good fat, so also so the spaghetti don’t go sticking like icky, and then I’ve literally like cubed them all up to freeze, so before we come out to this podcast, I know we’re hitting lunch time. I’ve already got that in the oven cooking, so when coming off the podcast, I’m organised. I don’t have to make a decision after concentrating on what we’re doing.

Speaker 2  9:57 

Yeah,

Speaker 3  9:58 

already done. I think the food cubes just take away that decision.

Speaker 2  10:05 

Yeah, no, that’s really.. I think that’s great, right? And I think it’s a great thing to like recommend to clients as well, especially if you’re busy. Like, I find that I’m so busy during the work day as well. I have to have kind of grab and go feed personally,

Speaker 3  10:17 

and I think that’s the key – grab and go. And also something I noticed, me and Chat GBT, like best mates, you see, but I was talking about, like, trying to find, trying not to set myself up to fail, because I’m a classic car crash of failure, I make a lot of mistakes, and I, it’s like I learned from that, so I was sort of saying to Chat GBT, when would be the best time for me to be focused to do meal prep and be organised, and it like it came to the conclusion I just needed to be told, quite frankly, that the mornings are when I’m at my peak. So, on a Saturday morning, like maybe once a month, I’ve got so many pots from Team U, it’s unreal, but I literally cook everything up in the kitchen. It looks like an ADHD squat. It looks like my bedroom, but the whole kitchen has got like four or five different meals going all ready for the freezer, and to be fair, I have to do it on a day that I’ve got the energy to cook.

Speaker 2  11:19 

Yeah, I get that,

Speaker 3  11:21 

and then it’s done, but I’ve got food in the freezer. I made a little bit more yesterday, but I’ve got loads of food now that I just don’t have to think about.

Speaker 2  11:30 

Start a little Carolyn company now, you can.

Speaker 3  11:33 

I’ll sell it all off, I’ll be three pound 50. Thanks,

Speaker 2  11:38 

Becky’s bolognese.

Speaker 3  11:40 

I think it’s just, I don’t mind, and maybe it’s an ADHD thing. I don’t mind eating the same food over and over again.

Speaker 2  11:48 

Yeah, like, yeah, I mean, that is an ADHD thing. I would say kind of like, I think for you, because I know you don’t eat meat, you’re getting lots of like lagoons in and stuff. I think about heart health, like variety, all that kind of stuff like we’ve got oats and stuff, thinking about like maybe rotating like seeds, like chia seeds, flax

Speaker 1  12:08 

seeds,

Speaker 3  12:08 

they’re in there, bulk buy from Costco. I’ve got the, I think I bought eight quids because I get so overwhelmed with food shopping, that is another thing, like I did 260 quid in Costco the other day, so everything’s all bulk, it’s in the cupboards, so yeah, put the cheese seeds in, I’ve got the protein powder, I’ve got the kefir yogurt, I whacked in it the other day, so I’ve got everything that I need in it, but it’s complex, but I don’t have to think,

Speaker 2  12:37 

yeah, no, I think, I think that’s really good, especially for, like, you know, for people who are literally in their struggle to kind of like understand, like, what to eat, and kind of like what to have. It takes away that decision, and I would recommend, like, as you said, like, picking a day where you have the most energy, and picking a day where you feel like you, you’re up for it, and you can do it. I sporadically did it on a Sunday night. Don’t do that. I don’t recommend that. I just said I’d do it. I saw, I just went and did

Speaker 3  13:05 

it. Oh, but there’s the treasure in that, isn’t it? It’s like you’ve learned, you’ve gone, yeah, this is not going to work for me. This has got a bit peaked on, and it’s like just about, yeah. And it’s not going to work on a Sunday night, where you need to wind down to then start the week.

Speaker 2  13:20 

Yeah, I know, so yeah, I’m gonna try and do it, maybe on a Friday, like a Friday afternoon, like that’s good for me, like I’ve started for me, it’s about getting the habit of doing it as well, I have to kind of establish a habit with it, and then I sort of tend to like pick it up and then do it a bit more, but yeah, I think for those who are trying to eat healthier and try and get more protein in, or kind of like more nutrients within their diet. I would definitely sort of recommend it, and I think it’s really good for people in recovery of eating disorders as well, because it takes away, it takes away that anxiety around food.

Speaker 3  13:56 

Yeah, it is the decision making fatigue, and it is, I think it’s the pressure that goes on, you want to eat right, you’ve got all the belief systems that you need to be on a calorie deficit, and you shouldn’t eat this, and you shouldn’t eat that. Well, actually, if it’s done three solid meals a day, do it as an experiment, like both you and me have done it as an experiment recently, and it was something that I don’t believe in New Year’s resolutions, I just wanted something that was going to take the pressure off me to think at the end of the day, and I’ve done it for about five weeks now, hasn’t all been perfect, like I’ve made some absolute horrific disaster dinners that, like the cottage cheese and the egg, never put cottage cheese in with hot egg, because it curdles and goes like slop, but I think, like, my food waste just being like minimal.

Speaker 2  14:52 

Yeah, okay, that’s good.

Speaker 3  14:55 

Oh, yeah, apart from the flapples I made the other day that I tried to stick in the waffle maker, and I was like, they all got stuck, and I was like, what the hell is going wrong here? I hadn’t put any olive oil in

Speaker 2  15:07 

it. Okay,

Speaker 3  15:08 

so I just made this crusty mess.

Speaker 2  15:11 

Oh God, that’s so funny.

Speaker 3  15:12 

But I now have learned, bit like your Sunday night, that actually the flaffles were so good, and they tend.. okay, the waffle maker was a bit trashed, so I just put them all in silicone moulds and cooked them up like they were little muffins, but they were brilliant. When I was out the other day, me and little man went to the park, and I had them as my snack.

Speaker 2  15:36 

Okay, that was cool. Nice, that’s good.

Speaker 3  15:38 

But I didn’t have to think they were in the fridge. Yeah,

Speaker 2  15:40 

they were in there, ready to go.

Speaker 3  15:42 

But I think anybody who’s really struggling is, you just want the thought process, and I think if parents are listening with their kids as well, that sometimes, or even if you’ve got your partner who’s recovering, or got ADHD, or struggles with food, sometimes just having the food put in front of you is a decision made, it’s like, and sometimes that just takes.. I don’t like being told what to do, which is really frustrating, but when it comes to food, and somebody just puts some good food in front of me, I’m like, oh my god, thanks so much,

Speaker 2  16:16 

but yeah, done, that sorted,

Speaker 3  16:21 

but I think it goes against, like, what society, like all this diet culture. What was I listening to this morning on the radio? Oh, did you hear it on the radio? Fasting has been proven to not be as good as it’s supposed to be, that they’ve counteracted it. I can’t remember, and I was laughing, so I’m driving along, nodding and laughing, going, “Wait, would you know it was a load of rubbish? Why starve yourself? Like

Speaker 2  16:45 

fasting is not good for everyone, especially if they struggle with ADHD and blood sugar sort of abnormalities, or if you tend to have really blood low blood sugar in the morning, and then you don’t eat, and then you, you know, you let your blood sugar get too low, and you risk overeating. It’s not healthy at all. It’s only research that’s been really good for type two diabetes, because it helps regulate insulin. That’s it. Like, not recommended for someone who has had a history of an eating disorder either,

Speaker 3  17:13 

which is really important. And I think the blood sugars are one thing to keep an eye on, like we don’t, we’re not taught at school to regulate our blood sugars, we’re not taught in society to regulate our blood sugars at all, and I don’t know why we have this lack of information about it, because if your blood sugar is balanced, you’ll be the best version of yourself,

Speaker 2  17:36 

definitely. Um, didn’t teach the kids that in a module that I’ve done in nutrition, actually that’s included in there about blood sugar kind of things, that if do they feel focused in class, are they feeling tired, because like it’s like well, if your focus is gone, that means your blood sugar’s dropped, so

Speaker 3  17:54 

noticing where your blood sugars have dropped in your body, so like I’ve got a birthmark on my lip, and when my blood sugars have gone, I actually have a purple lip, and sometimes people go to me, Have you got pen on your lip, and I’m like, no, it’s my birthmark, or I find that I glaze over, like I stare a lot, and I’m like, man, I’m vacant, like Christian, what you staring at, I’d be like,

Speaker 1  18:21 

don’t know

Speaker 3  18:22 

my fingers go cold.

Speaker 2  18:25 

Okay, so you get cold. Yeah, feeling cold, like a focus, like thinking about food, tired, irritable.

Speaker 3  18:32 

Yeah, sometimes I don’t even think about food. Like, I think with ADHD, it’s like I’m most probably hit. I’ve missed the, I’ve missed the bus stop somewhere with it. It’s like normally I’m pretty good, like recognizing I’m hungry, and also I think hormonally for women as well. Like, we’ve spoken about it a few times, we need to eat more around our periods, because, oh, is that your next bit that you’re gonna say? Yeah,

Speaker 2  19:00 

because I need to be prepped the week before mine,

Speaker 1  19:03 

yeah.

Speaker 2  19:03 

Otherwise, it’s just game over for me,

Speaker 3  19:07 

yeah. And also for me, I think what I’ve noticed is I am obsessed. Aldis salt dark chocolate,

Speaker 2  19:15 

okay? Nice.

Speaker 3  19:16 

So when I’ve got you on, I’ve gone in and bought two bars of them, like two massive sleeves, I’ve got like five in each one of them, and I leave one in the car, and then I’ve got one in the cupboard, so when I get you on, and I want that sweetness,

Speaker 2  19:33 

yeah,

Speaker 3  19:35 

I want that quick fix. Well, actually, I only.. what did I have? I think I had two bars of it the other day I couldn’t eat anymore,

Speaker 2  19:44 

okay,

Speaker 3  19:45 

I was, I was, I was done, it, it did what I needed with my, like, with my period, I needed more energy, but I wanted that really like for me feeling, and I think recognizing that, be kind to yourself, your body, I. Think was it, I think you said it was like next to 350

Speaker 2  20:03 

yeah. So, with the sort of hormone adopter that I’ve personally worked with, I remember she explained to me you need an extra 300 calories to lead up like the luteal phase towards your period, and that’s every day, so an extra 300 and that was from a GP hormone, a specialist, her name was Dr. Reagan. She came on this podcast, you know, a while back, but yeah, she’s really good. You can look her up. She’s also a menopause expert as well, but yeah, so she explained that, and I like to be prepped before, kind of like the week, like having making sure like breakfast is there, lunch is there, good dinner, and increasing my carbohydrates, because your body needs to build progesterone to have the period, and you need carbohydrates to build that. So that’s really important, and also because we both train, I mean, I train a lot, so I need to kind of make sure I’m increasing that with the period maintenance plus my training on top, so

Speaker 3  21:04 

which I think, so important. I’ve learned because I’m a bit older than you. I think I’ve learned that within that week, one, I need to eat more,

Speaker 2  21:11 

yeah.

Speaker 3  21:12 

Two, is if I just can’t be asked, like gentle movement, I switch it up, I go for a walk,

Speaker 2  21:20 

yeah,

Speaker 3  21:21 

normally I can’t even lift any weights if I’m due on. I’m like, oh, so what’s the point of beating myself up and pushing myself when I just.. I just.. there’s nothing in me. My tank’s empty. So I tell you what has been a bit of a game changer. My little aura ring, so that has also helped my ADHD brain recognize that my body is tired, even though my brain’s like, ‘Yep, let’s go run a marathon.

Speaker 2  21:49 

Oh my god, I think I need something like that. I’m.. I still probably don’t reck. I still struggle to notice when I’m tired. I think I’ve been so many years of like pushing through that, and that was not healthy, and I’ve learned from that, but I do, I have learned to like rest, like try to rest when I can, but I think it’s the ADHD that, and just kind of, I just keep going, and

Speaker 1  22:09 

then

Speaker 2  22:09 

it’s difficult, it’s very difficult,

Speaker 3  22:12 

and it’s learning as well, I think, like we’re not, because I’ve, when my grandson’s so little at the moment, and he keeps going to nursery school, and picking up all these horrific germs, but my ADHD brain is like, yeah, let’s go. It actually says to me, your body’s under strain, you need to rest today. Actually, that’s been a game changer, because it’s slapped in front of my face.

Speaker 2  22:36 

Okay,

Speaker 3  22:38 

and even if I do ignore it, I am absolutely blowing one. I am just.. I can’t function very well. So, I think having something that’s really visual that I can see is telling me, you like this morning I got up and it was like, you’re well rested. I didn’t really do a lot yesterday, and it literally said, you’re well rested, you’ve got loads of energy for today. I’ve got up, I’m fuelled. I’ve been to the gym, I’ve come home and fuelled again. I’ve had another lovely coffee, and I’m on here with you, put dinner in the oven, like everything’s got a flow to it until I’m ready to self-sabotage, which is just before my period. A bit like you, it’s making sure that I don’t jump the ship.

Speaker 2  23:21 

Yeah, it’s being able to kind of, you know, listen to your body and not see that as a weakness, but I used to see that as a weakness, but I don’t anymore, and because health is very important to me now, and I know that, so I think that’s that’s really important for, you know, girls who are training and want to get back to exercising from if they’ve coming out of recovery, it’s under. I always say I think it’s so important to understand how much fuel your need, how much sorry, fuel your body needs, but like with the period before you incorporate any sort of exercise, so you don’t get overwhelmed.

Speaker 3  24:00 

But even like I was sitting in the sauna the other day, and I think what you’ve just said is really important. I’m not dismissing that. I was sitting in the sauna, and I was ear wigging someone’s conversation, like you do, being ADHD, you can have a little sneaky listen, and this boat was like, oh yeah, I’ve been bearing in mind the gym’s been open, it’s been built, and it’s been open a while now, and he’s like, yeah, I’ve been here every single day since it opened, and I was like, so where’s your rest days? And you know, when your first thought is like, oh, I wonder if he’s got ADHD, because he’s go, go, go, go, go, and I was a bit like, but he’s not resting, yes, he’s quite muscly, but actually his body must be exhausted,

Speaker 2  24:36 

yeah, and you’re not going to gain anything if you’re exhausted as well, like your cortisol is going to go up high, your stressor mind, if anything, even.

Speaker 3  24:43 

Yeah, and I think that’s the bit where the food keeps the stress manageable.

Speaker 2  24:50 

Yeah, definitely. Yeah,

Speaker 3  24:53 

I think, and also maybe, like, for me, I don’t eat, I eat a lot more whole growing food now, because I. I could eat a scabby dog after eating, like, if I have white rice, for example. I love white rice, it tastes so good, but within an hour I’m hungry again.

Speaker 2  25:08 

Yeah, I, I definitely need whole grain, like kind of fibrous sort of feeds that they’re really good for me, and like fatty, like I like the Mediterranean type diet, like oil for me it’s like oily fish, like kind of olive oil, good fats, good quality food. I just do well on that type of diet, like that’s very good for me personally. So, and everyone’s different, so I think you got works for you.

Speaker 3  25:31 

Yeah, it is fine. What foods work? I know, like having more whole grainy, like rye bread, having like I found a pasta in Costco. It is a white pasta, it’s got like 12 grams of protein in it,

Speaker 3  25:46 

and it tastes amazing. And I first of all, I started eating it, I was like, oh, sorry, it wasn’t actually that expensive, so I was waffling it away. I said to my daughter, I was like, oh my god, this is the best pasta. So, being ADHD, drove back up, bought another four massive bags, they’re like three and a half kilos worth of pasta. pastoring the carpet, I don’t have to go food shopping, so because I think that preparation and shopping come hand in hand together.

Speaker 2  26:14 

Yeah, definitely, I totally agree, but yeah, it’s.. I think this has been such a great podcast, and I hope that people listening to this have taken away something from it, and you know, and just to say, both Becky and I, you know, if you guys don’t know, if you listen to this, that we both work together with clients who struggle with eating disorders and ADHD as well, so,

Speaker 3  26:36 

and I think it’s important, we complement each other really well, because, yeah, I’ll do the sort of the emotional side of it get you finding your purpose back in life again, finding who you are without this chaos of the illness, like the scribbles in your head screaming at you that you’re only going to be acceptable if you’re thin, where I think where Jen’s got all the knowledge, you’ve got all the PT, you’ve got all the nutritional side, you’ve got the hormone side, so as a like as two professionals working alongside each other, we work really well, and we bounce well together, but your interests, like if you choose to go into therapy with either me or Jen, is our interest is you, like you are getting you back on track is our best focus, but we want this because you want this, like me and Jen do not have magic wands.

Speaker 2  27:25 

Yeah, you have to want it. You have to want recovery.

Speaker 3  27:28 

Yeah, otherwise it’s.. it won’t work. And I think both me and you have got this ready, willing, and able, and if you’re not those, then you’re not ready for being on board with you and me. I think it takes a lot of courage to step into it, but also just feeling secure and held as well, and I think with the people that we’ve worked with and got into recovery, they get that from both sides of us, and they do really well.

Speaker 2  27:53 

Yeah, definitely. I totally agree. Amazing. Well, I hope everyone enjoyed listening to this podcast. Thank you all so much for coming.

Speaker 3  28:03 

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